Also thank you so much for the directions on how to get there- I looked it up on maps and was like how the heck am I going to get there?! This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). I realize I must register with PdS within 8 days of arrival – so will follow your steps above – the catch is the health insurance – will a long term travel insurance policy covering medical and emergency evacuation be suitable – since it appears I cannot apply for a voluntary SSN without the PdS? SO TRUE! It’s been 2 months since I submitted my application . And taxes. I wouldn’t worry! Sorry Natalie, another thought. Usually, they will throw all the paper away when you have your actual appointment, but sometimes they scowl if you try to put in only the picture and visa pages. So by the time you have the permit, you have been in Italy for about 3 months (or more). If I apply once I get back to Rome on the 14th of October will that be ok? Do not lose these. Please. I will continue to research and hopefully find an answer! In Italy, the post office is used to paying bills, banking and sending packages in addition to applying for immigration status. Or maybe am I just a bit naive, Natalie Good luck filling it out I have to redo mine soon. I am from Albania and i have found a work contract in Italy . Hi there, I am a student in Italy, applied the permesso in June and had my fingerprinted in early July. but i want to be sure about that with receipt from post office, can i go to sofia or not. Ciao. This is a very confusing process and I really appreciate you helping all of us by sharing your experience . 6. Just enquired yesterday in questura dept in Varese and they told that the I am a type 1 diabetic. 1 – apply well ahead of time for a Visa which will only be valid for the dates I applied for Inserisci il numero di pratica (10 caratteri) o il tuo numero di assicurata (12 caratteri) della richiesta del tuo permesso di soggiorno Oltre all’avviso visualizzabile tramite questo sistema informatico, sullo stato del procedimento, sarà inviato al cittadino straniero un sms con l’indicazione delle modalità per il ritiro del permesso di soggiorno già pronto: giorno, ora e luogo. i am also in same situation and second time i applied for permesso di socciorno..and i want to take a flight from sofia to Istanbul. That is fine – they will keep it for you at the station near your home. Sincerely, You should be entitled to one because your wife is a citizen. What’s the requirements for life time or 00 parmiso di soggiorno Il permesso di soggiorno è un documento differente dalla carta di soggiorno e dal nuovo permesso CE di lungo periodo. Which visa should I be applying for from the consulate here? Love this information! Re: Correzione dati sul permessodi soggiorno. Ive never been overseas or had a visa or anything this is all new to me but I’ll do anything to be with the one I love and hopefully won’t need to worry anymore! Copy any documents about why you are in Italy. That sounds like a tricky one. Hello! My partner and I are a few years away from retirement and sorta planning the next chapter. I am sure you will love where you end up! Assuming you’re not doing this from a consulate in another country not really seeing any other way. Questa è una versione del sito destinata in generale a chi parla Italiano in Italia. Se risiedi in un altro paese o in un'altra area geografica, seleziona la versione appropriata di Tripadvisor dal menu a discesa. Then you wait some more. As far as I know, you need a visa. What we are trying to determine is the best and legally acceptable way for my daughter’s upcoming travel to Italy. I applied for the pds and went to the questura for my appointment, to find out that they didnt have my kit. Sorry! A presto Emma One of the reforms to come out of Romano Prodi's goverment is that you no longer need to go to the Questura request or renew your Permesso di Soggiorno. Anyway thanks for all the articles. At what point in the visa/schengen/permessio process can I apply for national healthcare? The HowToItaly blog has moved to www.howtoitaly.typepad.com. SO, can she: As EU, you only need to declare residency at the anagrafa. Thanks for your quick reply! we own a house here and I have the right to live here in italy. No one told me I need to bring copies of other things with me. Go figure. Hi Natalie, first off GREAT site! As an EU citizen I know I do not need any visa for Italy state so no visa to convert so is it the us EU folks do not need the PdS? I own a property in Italy and was thinking to spend a year there (not working). Hey Natalie, Just got my first PDS! Il primo passo per ottenere il permesso di soggiorno è quello di presentare regolare domanda tramite kit postale. Within our 90 day allowed stay, we applied for residency. I’ve just gone through getting permessi for myself and my family. I don’t believe residency is usually granted without the legal right to live in Italy. Are we still able to apply for this? I just arrived in Italy and with the easter holiday I may miss the 8 day cut off by one day. First is the language and second is the documentation and paperwork. A permesso di soggiorno (permit of stay) is not an entry visa, it is not a passport, and it is not an identity card. Thank you Natalie, thanks for the kindness. We now worry that we might be living here illegally. I’ve tried to look for an answer everywhere but seem to be getting nowhere! Thank You, Natalie, for the useful information!! You might want to check the official information site: We have been staying in hotels but are we technically still legally allowed to be in the country for longer than the 90 day schnegen rule or is that not allowed if we do not have the residency permit? Your email address will not be published. Couldn’t do it. Pay attention to the giant screens that show which number the officials are currently serving. You must miss California . I am in the same predicament, here on a working holiday visa so my intention is to travel around for the first 3 months and means I don’t have a fixed address. I have been looking at doing this recently and dreading it and here is your generous and easy to follow guidelines. Can you apply for a “Permesso Di Soggiorno” if you are on a “Tourist Visa”? Hi Chamie – Apologies but I don’t have visa advice. However, the process is slowly getting better and it remains one of those necessities of life in Italy as a foreigner. Because I won’t be in the country on that day, It’s not a problem to go a few days late, but you have to be careful traveling without a valid PDS. Stay on in Italy After the student visa expiration date for an additional 90 days of July-Sept Hi Natalie, I am EU Citizen, my wife is from China, and we’re preparing to move to Italy as our daughter will soon start at the Accademia di Belle Arti di Roma, for 4 years. Hi Natalie, what happens if my card is ready and I’m not around at that particular time to pick it? It is very clear after reading it. Is that correct? And how many times can one renew? I was wondering if you ever found out if it is possible to apply for renewal earlier than 60 days prior to expiry. I imagine you probably need the actual card. I would recommend considering public transportation options and connectivity when you think about neighborhoods unless you are going to get a car! Is there any chance you can apply to language schools to teach at before you arrive? In diritto amministrativo e in diritto internazionale, il permesso di soggiorno è un documento rilasciato da un'amministrazione di uno stato a un a che you enter the country as a tourist and then apply right? Signing this requires you to attend a few Italian civics and life classes, which I assume is simply a matter of showing up and staying to the end of the class (no tests required as far as I know). The price keeps changing so just show the form at the tabbachi and they will be able to give you the right version (it currently costs €14.62). I appreciate your thoughts, and I’m sorry if the question has already been addressed in this very popular thread. I think they likely do, unless you live in Vatican City. Hi Natalie, I came to Italy one month back and going through all the nightmare. Visto turistico d’ingresso per l’Italia e l’estero **** ATTENZIONE **** With EU citizenship it should be no problem, but I’m not familiar enough with the Swiss immigration rules within in the EU. 1) In un primo caso che vi segnalo, l'errore è stato nell'indicazione della durata del permesso. We bought an apartment in Verona in March and want to stay for six months. I want to live in Venezia. Sorry I don’t have more info! If I have a 4-6 month student visa how long will my permesso be good for? Vorrebbe richiamare la famiglia dalla Sierra Leone, tra l'altro, quindi l'errore nel cognome è grave. It looks like this: 14. Amazing blog! Your best bet is probably going to another post office rather than waiting for them to restock. Permesso di soggiorno is a document that the Italian state demands of all foreign citizens, that is citizens of countries that are not part of the European Union (EU). Altro, Rispondi a: Correzione dati sul permessodi soggiorno. There are several ticket options so make sure you click the correct number. Check online with your id number to see if it is ready, or pass by the police station to see if your name is posted outside. 4 years ago, my mother is half american , so I apply from her to get a green card I’m 29 years old and I going to get my green card at 37 years old !! 2) Some sites say that private health insurance will cost you $10,000/year. I asked the questura who said I could just leave with my passport, but I wanted to ask whether or not the border control asks for proof of permit when leaving the Schengen area. Thanks for all the info- super helpful! We use a re-entry Visa can we come to your Avendo un permesso di soggiorno per studio in fase di rinnovo dall’inizio di giugno (richiesto a maggio ma i rilievi in questura sono stati fatti a giugno, poichè da loro è stato fissato l’appuntamento) il quale rinnovo è di 6 mesi (quindi al 31-12 scadrà) non si può viaggiare nello spazio Schengen. I know the feelings of stress which is why I tried to lay out the steps! Although Rome is trying to improve and expand its subway system, it’s basically a I’ve been wondering for years how one can move to Italy (Rome, specifically). No. So, should we first get her a multiple entry visa or the apply for the permesso at Italy embassy in China? I do not know about that one. Hi Josh! To just take the plunge and move there– plain and simple? Vediamo insieme in questa completa guida come convertire il permesso di soggiorno in carta di soggiorno permanente.Il permesso di soggiorno consente, agli stranieri e agli apolidi, presenti sul territorio dello Stato italiano di rimanere in Italia; alle condizioni e … My appointment is in October! Dopo la presentazione della domanda in posta, il diretto interessato potrà conoscerne l’avanzamento chiamando un Contact Center, sul Portale Immigrazione o tramite SMS della Questura. They would only ask for proof that you applied for a permesso if you had stayed much more than 90 days. I am sure it will all go well for you — good luck! It is the visa that will determine if you can or cannot work. 1. If you want to work in Italy, the best way is to have an employer sponsor you. Also, do they keep the passport with them while processing the application ? Now, nearly 4 years later, we are told that we should have had and now need a permisso di soggiorno to stay. Hi Natalie, I have come to Italy through a Family Reunion Visa and I have applied for my PSD but I have a single entry visa can I come back to Italy to collect my PSD with my post office receipt? I didn’t make photocopies of the actual kit and now am freaking out I should have. There are chairs to sit in but wrap up if you are going in winter and bring water/a snack in case you are stuck outside for awhile. Congrats! Haha. It is not possible to apply without a visa. Not every tabbachi has the machine to print bolli so don’t panic if you strike out. My plan is to arrive in Rome with a Student Visa, apply for Residence Permit, go to London for 3 weeks and then come back to Rome. That makes things much more clear for me. However, you start the process after one week in Italy, and get an appointment that is about a month in the future, then you have to wait 45 days for the permesso to actually be issued. Hi Sofia – you do not need to copy the module! Hi Sam! Fun time freezing, starving and being bored. I have been looking at many and much in the past been covered by employer, once I secure position in Roma area who knows but need think of the family. I am thinking of the temporary residence permit for minors who have been exploited. Does this sound right? Even for the permesso, you will need a fixed address. I know that I only can be in Italy for 90 days. They will also ask you where you want to pick the permesso up, so be prepared to name a police station near your house. I guess you’ve never had to go through the hassle of US Immigration. (I apologize for my delayed response– I only now saw that you had responded forever ago!). It is extremely helpful in knowing what to expect in obtaining a permesso de soggiorno. If so, does she need to start the whole PdS process for this 90 day period, the full year- long intended stay, or not at all at this point? I don’t speak Italian and was so confused. I know I will have more questions the deeper I get into this, but I greatly appreciate your time and help in answering my questions. Utenti che conoscono bene questa destinazione e rispondono spesso alle domande degli altri viaggiatori. Or is there another type of visa I should start with? My question is after taking pErmesso di soggiorno do you have to get also residence from the commune. She is the founder and editor of this blog and prefers all of her days to include coffee, gelato, and wine. After providing all asked for documentation, we were each given 10 year residency permits. I’m an American, and will not be working at this point. It's updated daily so why not come along and join the party? My boyfriend lives in Rome, so I have a “landing place”, but I am wondering if it is possible for me to enter Italy in advance with the student visa in order to find a place to live and get settled in. Use re-entry Visa. Hi Denise – tourist visas are for three months or less, and permessi are only for 3.5 months or more, so you cannot. Happy planning! I will give the answer as well as I understand it: yes. Mio compagno all ingresso via mare alla richiesta del asilo e permesso di soggiorno, ha fornito una data di nascita sbagliata (motivo deceso improvviso dei genitori, che precedentemente l'hanno adottato e partenza improvvisa dal paese, praticamente scappato dopo il deceso violento dei genitori). I also thought I would mention that waiting times probably vary on a number of factors, and I wouldn’t necessarily say they have been reduced in recent years. Just move right along to the next tabbachi and try again. That might be something to keep in mind if you want more permanent work. Even if you are child of American citizens and you are more than 21 years old . Wishing you the best of luck in Italy! Hi Phil – my apologies but I don’t know the steps for the JS. If you are in Rome, you can get the Rome questura by taking Metro B to Rebibbia. kit postale – Per poter richiedere il rilascio oppure il rinnovo del permesso di soggiorno, a partire dall’11 dicembre 2006, in Italia viene usato un nuovo metodo.Le domande devono essere presentate agli Uffici delle Poste Italiane che si occupano del servizio di Sportello Amico.. I’m making it sound like I’m looking to be a total loafer or Cosmo Kramer in Italy (I’m not, I promise! It’s all such a mystery to me, and most expats I’ve known have all married an Italian! The Rome questura has vastly improved and now has screens that will flash your name and the number of the desk you are meant to approach when it is finally your turn.